And Now, And Here-第13章

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she　cannot　go　to　school　because；　although　she　is　eleven；　she　can　easily　look　upon　her　teacher　as　her　son。

so　even　though　her　body　is　eleven　years　old；　her　mind　and　personality　are　those　of　a　seventy…eight…year…old　woman。

she　cannot　play　and　frolic　like　a　child；　she　is　only　interested　in　the　kinds　of　serious　things　old　women　talk　about。

she　is　in　agony；　she　is　filled　with　tension。

her　body　and　mind　are　not　in　harmony。

she　is　in　a　very　sad　and　painful　state。

i　advised　her　parents　to　bring　the　girl　to　me；　and　to　let　me　help　her　forget　the　memories　of　her　past　lives。

just　as　there　is　a　method　to　revive　memories；　there　is　also　a　way　to　forget　them。

but　her　parents　were　enjoying　the　whole　affair！　crowds　of　people　came　to　see　the　girl；　they　began　to　worship　her。

the　parents　were　not　interested　in　having　her　forget　the　past。

i　warned　them　the　girl　would　go　mad；　but　they　turned　a　deaf　ear。

today　she　is　on　the　verge　of　insanity；　because　she　cannot　bear　the　weight　of　so　many　memories。

another　problem　is；　how　to　get　her　married？　she　finds　it　difficult　to　conceive　of　marriage　when；　in　fact；　she　feels　like　an　old　woman　of　seventy…eight。

there　is　no　harmony　of　any　kind　within　her；　her　body　is　young　but　the　mind　is　old。

it　is　a　very　difficult　situation。

but　this　was　an　accident。

you　can　also　break　open　the　passage　with　an　experiment。

but　it　is　not　necessary　to　go　in　that　direction；　however；　those　who　still　wish　to　pursue　it；　can　experiment。

but　before　moving　into　the　experiment　it　is　essential　they　go　through　deep　meditation　so　their　minds　can　bee　so　silent　and　strong　that　when　the　flood　of　memories　breaks　upon　them；　they　can　accept　it　as　a　witnessing。

when　a　man　grows　into　being　a　witness；　past　lives　appear　to　be　no　more　than　dreams　to　him。

then　he　is　not　tormented　by　the　memories；　now　they　mean　nothing　more　than　dreams。

when　one　succeeds　in　recalling　past　lives　and　they　begin　to　appear　like　dreams；　immediately　ones　present　life　begins　to　look　like　a　dream　too。

those　who　have　called　this　world　maya　have　not　done　so　just　to　propound　a　doctrine　of　philosophy。

jati…smaran　……　recalling　past　lives　……　is　at　the　base　of　it。

whosoever　has　remembered　his　past　lives；　for　him　the　whole　affair　has　suddenly　turned　into　a　dream；　an　illusion。

where　are　his　friends　of　past　lives？　where　are　his　relatives；　his　wife　and　children；　the　houses　he　lived　in？　where　is　that　world？　where　is　everything　he　took　to　be　so　real？　where　are　those　worries　that　gave　him　sleepless　nights？　where　are　those　pains　and　sufferings　that　seemed　so　insurmountable；　that　he　carried　like　a　dead　weight　on　his　back？　and　what　became　of　the　happiness　he　longed　for？　what　happened　to　everything　he　so　toiled　and　suffered　for？　if　you　ever　remember　your　past　life；　and　if　you　lived　for　seventy　years；　then　whatever　you　might　have　seen　in　those　seventy　years；　would　that　look　like　a　dream　or　a　reality？　indeed；　it　would　look　like　a　dream　which　had　e　and　withered　away。

i　have　heard。

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once　a　kings　only　son　lay　on　his　deathbed。

for　eight　days　he　was　in　a　a　……　he　couldnt　be　saved　nor　would　death　claim　him。

on　the　one　hand　the　king　prayed　for　his　life；　while　on　the　other　hand；　aware　of　so　much　pain　and　suffering　all　around；　he　felt　the　futility　of　life　at　the　same　time。

the　king　could　not　sleep　for　eight　nights；　but　then；　around　four　oclock　one　morning；　sleep　overtook　him　and　he　began　to　dream。

we　generally　dream　of　those　things　which　we　have　not　fulfilled　in　life；　and　so　the　king；　sitting　by　his　only　son；　his　dying　son；　dreamed　that　he　had　twelve　strong　and　handsome　sons。

he　saw　himself　as　the　emperor　of　a　large　kingdom；　as　the　ruler　of　the　whole　earth；　with　large　and　beautiful　palaces。

and　he　saw　himself　as　extremely　happy。

as　he　was　dreaming　all　this。

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time　runs　faster　in　a　dream；　in　a　dream　timing　is　totally　different　from　our　day…to…day　time。

in　a　moment　a　dream　can　cover　a　span　of　many　years；　and　after　waking　up　you　will　find　it　difficult　to　figure　out　how　so　many　years　were　covered　in　a　dream　that　lasted　just　a　few　moments！　time　actually　moves　very　fast　in　a　dream；　many　years　can　be　spanned　in　one　moment。

so；　just　as　the　king　was　dreaming　about　his　twelve　sons　and　their　beautiful　wives；　about　his　palaces　and　the　great　kingdom；　the　ill；　twelve…year…old　prince　died。

the　queen　screamed；　and　the　kings　sleep　came　to　an　abrupt　end。

he　awoke　with　a　shock。

worriedly；　the　queen　asked；　〃why　do　you　look　so　frightened？　why　are　there　no　tears　in　your　eyes？　why　dont　you　say　something？〃　

the　king　said；　〃no；　i　am　not　frightened；　i　am　confused。

i　am　in　a　great　quandary。

i　am　wondering　who　i　should　cry　for？　should　i　cry　for　the　twelve　sons　i　had　a　moment　ago；　or　should　i　cry　for　this　son　i　have　just　lost？　the　thing　thats　bothering　me　is；　who　has　died？　and　the　strange　thing　is　that　when　i　was　with　those　twelve　sons；　i　had　no　knowledge　of　this　son。

he　was　nowhere　at　all；　there　was　no　trace　of　him；　or　of　you。

now　that　i　am　out　of　the　dream；　this　palace　is　here；　you　are　here；　my　son　is　here　……　but　those　palaces　and　those　sons　have　disappeared。

which　is　true？　is　this　true；　or　was　that　true？　i　cannot　figure　it　out。

〃　

once　you　remember　your　past　lives；　you　will　find　it　difficult　to　figure　out　whether　what　you　are　seeing　in　this　life　is　true　or　not。

you　will　realize　you　have　seen　the　same　stuff　many　times　before　and　none　of　it　has　endured　forever　……　everything　is　lost。

then　the　question　will　arise：　〃is　what　i　am　seeing　now　just　as　true　as　what　i　saw　before？　。

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because　this　will　run　its　course　too　and　fade　away　like　all　other　previous　dreams。

when　we　watch　a　movie　it　appears　to　be　real。

after　the　film　has　ended；　it　takes　us　a　few　moments　to　e　back　to　our　reality；　to　acknowledge　that　what　we　saw　in　the　theater　was　merely　an　illusion。

in　fact；　many　people　who　ordinarily　are　incapable　of　giving　vent　to　their　feelings　are　moved　to　tears　in　a　movie。

they　feel　greatly　relieved；　because　otherwise　they　would　have　had　to　find　some　other　pretext　for　releasing　their　feelings。

they　let　themselves　cry　or　laugh　in　the　theater。

when　we　e　out　of　the　movie；　the　first　thing　that　occurs　to　us　is　how　deeply　we　let　ourselves　bee　identified　with　the　happenings　on　the　screen。

if　the　same　movie　is　seen　every　day　the　illusion　gradually　begins　to　clear。

but　then　we　also　forget　what　happened　to　us　during　the　last　movie；　and　once　again；　when　we　go　to　a　new　film；　we　start　believing　in　its　events。

if　we　could　regain　the　memories　of　our　past　lives；　our　present　birth　would　also　begin　to　look　like　a　dream。

how　many　times　before　have　these　winds　blown！　how　many　times　before　have　these　clouds　moved　in　the　sky！　they　all　appeared　and　then　they　vanished；　and　so　will　the　ones　here　now　……　they　are　already　in　the　process　of　disappearing！　if　we　can　e　to　realize　this；　we　will　experience　what　is　known　as　maya。

along　with　this　we　will　also　experience　that　a｝l　happenings；　all　events　are　quite　unreal　……　they　are　never　identical；　but　they　are　transient。

one　dream　es；　is　followed　by　another　dream；　and　is　followed　by　yet　another　dream。

the　pilgrim　starts　from　one　moment　and　enters　into　the　next　one。

moment　after　moment；　the　moments　keep　disappearing；　but　the　pilgrim　continues　moving　on。

so　two　experiences　occur　simultaneously：　one；　the　objective　world　is　an　illusion；　maya　……　only　the　observer　is　real；　second；　what　appears　is　false　……　only　the　seer；　only　the　witness　of　it　is　true。

appearances　change　every　day　……　they　have　always　changed　……　only　the　witness；　the　observer　is　the　same　as　before；　changeless。

and　remember；　as　long　as　appearances　seem　real；　your　attention　will　not　focus　on　the　onlooker；　on　the　witness。

only　when　appearances　turn　out　to　be　unreal　does　one　bee　aware　of　the　witness。

hence；　i　say；　remembering　past　lives　is　useful；　but　only　after　you　have　gone　deeper　into　meditation。

go　deep　into　meditation　so　you　may　attain　the　ability　to　see　life　as　a　dream。

being　a　mahatma；　a　holy　man；　is　as　much　of　a　dream　as　being　a　thief　……　you　can　have　good　dreams　and　you　can　have　bad　dreams。

and　the　interesting　thing　is　that　the　dream　of　being　a　thief　is　likely　to　dissolve　soon；　whereas　the　dream　of　being　a　mahatma　takes　a　little　longer　to　disappear　because　it　seems　so　very　enjoyable。

and　so　the　dream　of　being　a　mahatma　is　more　dangerous　than　the　dream　of　being　a　thief。

we　want　to　prolong　our　enjoyable　dreams；　while　the　painful　ones　dissolve　by　themselves。

thats　why　it　so　often　happens　that　a　sinner　succeeds　in　attaining　to　god　while　a　holy　man　does　not。

i　have　told　you　a　few　things　about　rememberin
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Chapter3

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the　whole　universe　is　a　temple

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question　1　

a　friend　has　asked：　you　have　shown　us　the　method　of　negation　for　realizing　the　truth　or　the　divine　being　……　the　method　of　excluding　everything　else　in　order　to　know　the　self。

is　it　possible　to　achieve　the　same　result　by　doing　the　opposite？　can　we　not　try　to　see　god　in　everything？　can　we　not　feel　him　in　all？　

it　will　be　helpful　to　understand　this。

one　who　cannot　realize　g